Tuesday, February 10, 2009

FTOPS HORSE

I just started the Ftops HORSE event so I will try to post interesting hands that happen in relatively real time. This may or may not work so lets see

First ridiculous hand: Stud high A perfect trap gone ridiculously bad!

TheNewMath: K K 9___raises

krazylouie: xx xx 5___brings-in___folds

Billy The Croc: xx xx A___folds

takinabeating: xx xx 6___folds

Will_B_D: xx xx 7___folds

beeffrank21: xx xx T___completes___calls

cobrakai111: xx xx T___calls___folds



4th Street - (11.67 SB)



ChasingIdiot: xx xx J 4___calls

TheNewMath: K K 9 K___bets

beeffrank21: xx xx T 8___calls



5th Street - (7.33 BB)



ChasingIdiot: xx xx J 4 J___checks___raises___calls

TheNewMath: K K 9 K A___bets___raises

beeffrank21: xx xx T 8 3___calls___calls



6th Street - (16.33 BB)



ChasingIdiot: xx xx J 4 J 4___bets

TheNewMath: K K 9 K A Q___calls

beeffrank21: xx xx T 8 3 2___calls



River - (19.33 BB)



ChasingIdiot: xx xx J 4 J 4 xx___bets

TheNewMath: K K 9 K A Q 3___calls

beeffrank21: xx xx T 8 3 2 xx___folds



Total pot: (21.33 BB - 2,560)


Hmmm....rough beat there. I called on 7th because there has to be more than 5% chance he would show up with AAJJ or QQJJ rather than 100% having JJJ44 since my up card is not a K or A its not immediately apparent that he understand I made trip Kings so he might be running his Aces up too fast. Granted that is quite unlikely but I bloated the pot so big when I was so far ahead now I have to call the river. If the pot only has 10 BB instead of 20 I think can fold it much more often.

Also, apparently the stud hand converter I am using does not want to put the suits in the HTML code or the .gif pictures arent transferring. Either way, the only important suits to note are beerfrank has the ten of diamonds and the 3 of diamonds which leads me to believe he calls off on a diamond flush draw on the capped betting.



2nd Hand: Omaha HI/Lo 8 or better: How to Quarter someone



Full Tilt Poker FTOPS Event #14 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t120/t240 Limit - 8 players

The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter



ChasingIdiot (CO): t3435 M = 19.08

Hero (BTN): t4153 M = 23.07

krazylouie (SB): t4310 M = 23.94

Billy The Croc (BB): t5378 M = 29.88

takinabeating (UTG): t4382 M = 24.34

PrahladF (UTG+1): t4372 M = 24.29

beeffrank21 (MP1): t3097 M = 17.21

cobrakai111 (MP2): t7245 M = 40.25



Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN with JJ of diamonds JJ of hearts 22 of spades AA of hearts

2 folds, beeffrank21 raises, cobrakai111 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, krazylouie calls, Billy The Croc calls



Flop: (10 SB) 44 of clubs TT of hearts 33 of hearts (5 players)

krazylouie checks, Billy The Croc checks, beeffrank21 bets, cobrakai111 calls, Hero raises, krazylouie folds, Billy The Croc folds, beeffrank21 folds, cobrakai111 calls



Turn: (7.5 BB) 66 of spades (2 players)

cobrakai111 checks, Hero bets, cobrakai111 calls



River: (9.5 BB) JJ of clubs (2 players)

cobrakai111 checks, Hero bets, cobrakai111 calls



Final Pot: 11.5 BB

Hero shows JJ of diamonds JJ of hearts 22 of spades AA of hearts (HI: three of a kind, Jacks; LO: 6,4,3,2,A)

cobrakai111 shows AA of diamonds 22 of clubs QQ of diamonds KK of spades (HI: Ace King high; LO: 6,4,3,2,A)

Hero wins 5.75 BB

cobrakai111 wins 2.875 BB

Hero wins 2.875 BB


Obviously, this is a tremendously great spot for me. I think just calling on the button is much better than 3-betting here preflop because I do not want to risk isolating myself against any AAxx hand in which case I am a dog even though my hand is pretty. With only an A2 and no low back up my hand is not spectacular without some flop help. That being said, I got one of the best flops I could possibly hope for. Nut low draw, with nut flush draw, and an overpair that has chances of being good against the original raiser (beeffrank) who's an idiot. Then the turn brings in my low and I have the only other player crushed to 6 outs. He has no low insurance to counterfeit my low and he cannot catch the K of hearts or the Q of hearts. But he can catch one of the remaining two aces to crunch me with AK>AJ. But having him dead to 6 outs is a great scenario. The J on the river is only icing on the cake.



ARGRGRGRGGGRGR DONK BLASTED!!!!!!!!!!

So I busted out on an infuriating hand. I accidentally closed the table also so I don't have the hand history to post but I have the relevant action still in my memory. We are playing 250/500 stud 8 and I am shortish with 1950. I am not committed with these chips but I can't really expect to play too many hands without getting them all in. So I pick up (A3)5 off when no Aces are shown and it folds to me, complete to 250. A new player to the table with alot of chips raises to 500 with a K up. Then it comes around to Beeffrank (refer to above two posts!) who then reraises to 750 when he only has another 700 behind and he is showing an 8. I call the 500 more with the best current low draw and most likely a live A, the K then puts the cap on it for 1000 total and we both call. Now the pot is 32-3300 and I essentially cannot fold unless I catch brick on 4th and brick on 5th for one bet. Even then its quite close. So of course, I catch a good 7, the K catches a Q, Donksteak 5000 catches a J, the K bets, donksteak raises all in, I call, and the K calls.

So the boards look like this:

big stacks: xxKQ

beeffrank: xx8J (now allin)

Hero: (A3) 57 where no one has two of the same suit showing.

I catch a 7 on 5 street, KQ catches a brick and bets, I raise the 1/3 bet more that puts me allin. Now here are the boards for the allin:

big stack: KQKQ9

beeffrank: 398J7

Hero: A3577

I catch K 3 for a final hand of A3577K3 or just 7s and 3s no low, beeffrank ends up with Q high I believe and KKQQ scoops the overly bloated pot and eliminates two people.

Thoughts on the hand you ask? Well, my hand is certainly playable. 3 connected low cards with an A is usually a better hand in the long run vs KKQ especially multiway. The problem is I have very few chips. But since the end of the previous razz round the table has gotten manaical. Ever pot was huge and people were just throwing chips around without regard. I was not even able to play a hand in the preceding stud high round because every pot was raised or reraised ahead of me. This was due in no small part to beeffrank's obvious tilt/drunk/idiot/chip dump/cheater strategy. All in all, I was way correct to put my chips into the pot at every point in this hand even when I was all in on 5th street. If you do not believe me you can check out
http://tinyurl.com/c2q5fo

Essentially, beeffrank putting all his dead chips in the pot forced the KK to overvalue his hand (which just reveals the KK's lack of knowledge about stud 8) but once he hits KKQQ, he is not going anywhere given the pot size and my chips situation. This caused a chain reaction of me being forced to go to the end as well which invariably made the variance of the numbers from the above website much, much, much higher than they needed to be. Stud 8 is not supposed to be high variance game,in fact, it is theoretically the lowest variance game when you play a strong low-based game because so often you are getting at least half the pot back and sometimes hogging the whole pot. Hence the comment at the beginning of this hand. The donk, beeffrank, got me donk blasted and left me no maneuverability and caused the variance to eat me up. It must be reiterated, though, that my chips WERE below average prior to this hand and I was approaching the danger zone so it is not as though I went from chip leader to rail but I think my point is clear.


END RESULT: 535/703- VERY DISAPPOINTING!


3 comments:

Rick said...

I like the real-time posts! I couldn't see the suits of the cards, nor the results (if you posted them), but I'm guessing the guy had a jack. That sucks. I don't get why you called it a trap though. Seems like it was just kind of a cooler. You didn't slow-play it at all, did you? (Not that you played it wrong or anything; just curious if I'm missing something.)

Danyul said...

Well the trap is that my KK was hidden so my KKK was semi hidden and on 5th he thought his JJJ was in the drivers seat given his action. A perfect spot for us both to boat and me to win massive bets or us both to miss boats and me to win massive bets. But for him to boat and me to not boat after he catching up trips vs pair is just brutal ^2

Rick said...

Wow. With only 4 big bets left, the key strategic decision is really which hands to play in the first place, since you pretty much need to play most (if not all) hands til the end and hope to win. (A3)5 vs. (39)8 and (KQ)K is just a fantastic spot for you to be in, in stud-8. You'll win at least 1/2 the pot a huge % of the time, and by 5th street you will very often have (39)8 drawing practically dead, and will often have (KQ)K in bad shape. Seems about as close as you can get to a dream scenario. You just got unlucky this hand. If you're wondering whether you did anything wrong in this tournament, the only question might be whether you may possibly have played too tight on the other hands, because all 3 hands you posted about you had gigantic hands and were basically completely dominating your opponents.